S3 E1 - Why Breathing Correctly Is So Important

Welcome back! Wow season 3, who would have thought!

I am so honoured to start this episode with Nevsah,  founder and CEO at Breath Hub. She is a distinguished and highly respected international teacher in meditation, breathing and behavioural sciences with a 25 years track record of unrivalled expertise. She is also a published author and an acclaimed keynote speaker.
Nevsah is the President of Breath Coaching Federation and the vice president of the Graduate School of Behavioural Health Sciences and a faculty member at Breathing Sciences School and she is sharing her knowledge, expertise, social influence, leadership, wisdom, and love for breathwork and breathing sciences with the WORLD.

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Laura Konst: 0:06

Hi and welcome back to Tali and Loz podcast where we discover spirituality together. And I'm super excited because I have Nevsah with me for the first episode on this this season three. And she's the founder and CEO of the breath hub app. Hi, how are you today?

Unknown: 0:26

Hi, Laura. Thanks for inviting me.

Laura Konst: 0:29

Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Super excited to talk about this. Because breathwork is our life is what we do. It's important, it's very, very important and why it is so important. I am super excited to talk to talk about you because you've launched a breath hub app. And you're an expert for 20 years, roughly for breathing work. So yeah, let's start to talk a little bit about yourself. Who are you? And how come? You started into breathwork?

Unknown: 1:03

Yeah, sure. I'm breathing scientists who have been researching on the behavioral habits of breathing. For many years, it's been like 20 years. And I started as a breath worker many years ago. And, of course, it was in my own journey. It was for, you know, personal reasons, like many of us, because I was feeling I kind of kind of like lost, I was a bit depressed. I wasn't in a good state in my 20s. Because I could not connect well with myself now. I now now when I look back, I see that it was all because a shallow breathing habit because I had a shallow breathing habit. I had a shallow connection with myself, and my mission, and who I was. And I literally didn't know what the meaning of my life was. And I couldn't find the answer to many questions like the question, Why am I here? Like, what's the reason I'm here? Like, what's the meaning of life? And of course, these are spiritual, deep questions. But I had these questions in my 20s. And I was already doing yoga, I was already doing meditation, you know, all kinds of practices. I finished many Reiki courses, you know, energy courses. So my journey, kind of like to find myself and who I was already, you know, start has started many years ago, but I needed something more powerful. Like yoga and meditation, I don't know how it is with the young generation nowadays, but with my journey, it wasn't enough, it's kind of like I needed something deeper, I needed something more powerful. And then I came up with breathless, because it's kind of like you have an intention. And then the universe just gives you what you need. And I had my first reading session, it was amazing, because my teacher, who was a very good facilitator, analyze my breathing. And it was an easy breathing habits because I was breathing shallow, shallow, and he was able to analyze it very quickly. And he led me into breathing real deep. And I wasn't feel breathing real deep from my diaphragm, or, you know, I wasn't breathing deep at all. And the more he asked me to breathe deep, the more I realized how I wasn't able to breathe deep, because I had this shallow reading habits I've that was going on for many years. And it was very interesting for me to realize that no matter how much he told me to breathe deeper, I just couldn't do it. The first session, I just got into it, and I did breathe the, you know, the most deep I can and it started transforming my whole life that you know, session was really powerful, even though I could not breathe deep. Even with trying to breathe deeper and continuing with the session. It started transforming my whole life and I walked from when I woke up from the session because I was kind of like a very deep meditative sleep state at the end of the session. I woke up from this 45 minutes 50 mile and 50 minutes active breathwork session. And I was so clear about my mission. And I thought to myself, this was what I was waiting for. Like this is the meaning of life breath, is I breath is the bridge that connects me with myself. It's like it's the bridge that connects me with my truth with who I am with my mission. This is it. It's like I just lost that connection because I lost my connection with that bridge with my breath. And and I was like amazed with that power. It's like, you know breath is the bridge that connects us with our soul with our truth with who we are. And most of us have dysfunctional breathing habits. Most of us don't have that, you know, connection and we lost that connection with that, you know, bridge and then It's why many of us feel lost and depressed and don't know why we exist or we, you know, go on a journey in life without even knowing who we are, or without even knowing what our mission is. And most of us, you know, live on fulfilling, fulfilling lives, it's like fulfillment, physiologically, psychologically, spiritually comes with, you know, having enough breath. So in that session, I didn't only understand the importance of breathing spiritually, because I did, honestly, it's kind of like, okay, this is it, it's like, I'm gonna dedicate my life to my breath, and deepening my breath, by connecting, just deepening that connection, so that I am fully connected to the with myself, because I was, in that period of my life, I was trying to reconnect with myself and being centered, this was a big issue. For me, it's like, no matter what I did, I wasn't able to stay centered, I was kind of like, yeah, it was very easy for me to be lost in emotions and thoughts, and something would happen, and I would think something and be lost. And it was very hard for me to stay centered, and connected with myself, like 24 hours a day. And in that session, I realized that, you know, with breathing, I was able to connect with myself and stay centered. Like after that session, I was able to stay centered for almost a week, without losing my connection with myself and my vision and mission and everything. And I was like, wow. And on top of that, I had at that time, I had some eating disorders as well, because of that shallow breathing, I was not eating healthy, and I wasn't eating at all. I was very fed and all that. And when my breath open, I was able to receive life in and that was a big thing for me. And that's very important for us to understand, like, accepting the breath in, like taking it in means being able to take life in and I was able to fully take life in and, and experience this physical fulfillment. It was amazing, like physical, psychological, mental, spiritual. And then I understood even with that one session, then I understood that it was kind of like, our whole life depends on our breathing. Like, I understood my organs, my tissues, myself, stay alive, and healthy with breath. So whenever I have problems with my breathing, if I have any kind of, you know, wrong reading habits, if I don't have the oxygen, if I don't have the breath, I need physically, psychologically, mentally, I start feeling unfulfilled, and all kinds of stupid things start happening, you know, negative thoughts.

Laura Konst: 7:57

Yeah, I know that feeling. Yeah, crazy.

Unknown: 8:00

And that day on I yeah, I dedicated my life to, you know, first of all, deepening my own breath. And helping people do that overcome their breathing habits. Of course, then the journey went on. And I wanted to know, I got trainings for many different breathwork schools, certificates from breathwork schools. And because of my scientific background, it wasn't enough. But I wanted to know more, more about the behavioral side signs, like what's going on. And then I started researching and studying and started working with breeding scientists, faculty, and I was able to I was, I feel very privileged to be able to, you know, leads 10s of 1000s of students in, you know, connecting with their breath, understanding their breathing habits, because we all have different breathing habits, reading habits, or learn unconsciously, so we learn very bad and wrong breathing habits during our lives. And if you have a wrong or dysfunctional breathing habit that is getting triggered during the day, you won't have enough oxygen in your cells tissues, you'll first you know, started with first physical problems start and an emotional problems start. It's like our health, mental health, physical health insurance, everything depends on our beating. Yeah, so because over the years, it's it became very clear for me like my mission in life, I strongly believe that we humans can stay healthy and well, without getting any prescriptive medicine without doing anything else. mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, well, just by practicing breathwork everyday just by connecting with our main energies. It's like our main fuel, if you have that connection, and I've been experiencing that myself, with 10s of 1000s of my students, and I strongly believe that we can all stay healthy and well naturally and connected with ourselves. centered 24 hours a day, seven days a week, just by connecting with our breathing.

Laura Konst: 10:05

Oh, definitely. I think also what I love about it, because then eventually started breath hub, which is an app that everybody can download. But it's not just an app because you also have really good blogs that I really enjoy reading. And when I was reading them, I was more and more conscious of how much it can influence your whole life. It's sleep, it's, I enjoyed the ones reading about breathing with your partner as well. And even for, for the connection with your partner and your sexual life and all of that stuff. So how I've got many, many questions, but how does that work? How come that when you Let's go for sleep because there's many people with sleeping problems with sleep, because you because you're asleep, you don't control your breathing. That's what I think. But what the more and more I started reading what you in your blogs, and more, I thought actually you do control it, but it's subconsciously. So how does that work that like helping breathwork throughout the day, could help you sleep better and even prevent or, or soothe your snoring? And amnesia How? How come?

Unknown: 11:23

Yeah, so I'm gonna give an example. Like being with me being a shallow breather, and I was home. I'm gonna start there so that people understand when I give some examples about breathing habits. So first of all, for me who has a shallow root for me, who had a shallow breathing habit many years ago, just imagine you have a shallow breathing habit, you're not fully breathing, you're not using your breath fully. So which means is you're not fooling your lungs fully, which means if you don't have enough ATP and energy, because it's like breath turns, or oxygen in the blood, turns into ATP, create ATP in the body, which is pure energy. So my experience was in my 20s, I didn't have any energy, any energy at all. It's like most of the time I wanted to just sleep and just, you know, chill, because I didn't have the energy to do anything. And I and that was because of my reading. So imagine your so I didn't have any sweeping problems because I was kind of like in a sleeping mode anyway. Imagine the opposite. And the opposite is true for many people. The reason why sleeping disorders are many people have sleeping problems is that overbreeding habit is a huge problem right now in the world. Because we are over achievers. Most people are over achievers and over performers, you know, like performing and targets. Yeah, like performing targets and goals and all that. And due to that most people like in every 10 people I can say like six to seven people are performance breathers, so they are breathing more than they should, which keeps people in a hyper active state during the day. And it's the opposite of shallow breathing or sleeping state. It's being over connected with life having an overdrive and being over, you know, like, overeating leads to this hyperactive and it of course, it's like if you overeat too much, which will lead to a respiratory symptom called hyper hypercapnia, you will start experiencing anxiety and panic attack. And that's why many people have anxiety problems as well. It's like the more you breathe, it creates an anxious state like hyperactivity, anxiety. And imagine you're in that state the whole day and you get used to the state like I used. I got used to many years ago to shallow breathing. And as I gave an example, I told you, no matter how much my teacher said, you know, breathe deep. I couldn't because with my shallow breathing habit, I lost that ability to breathe deeper. I had to gain that ability back by doing breath work by using the diaphragm each and every day by practicing to breathe more each and every day. That's the opposite with people who are over breathing. They learned over breathing. Yeah, so it's very hard for them to shallow down the breath. And whenever I work with someone who is an over breathing believer who is hyperactive during the day, which leads to not being able to calm down at night and go to sleep, because when you go to I you know I find it very hard to relax, they're breathing and they need some breath work. You know, they need to practice some breath work and like what sleeping pills does is it relaxes your breathing. And you could do it without that pill as well. Because when and this is where the research is like when you are falling to sleep, you start reading shallow, you your breath slows down, and you start breathing, you don't use the diaphragm, but you start reading more into the chest. So it's kind of like this. Relaxing, letting go, you get into this relaxing, letting go states with your breath, you know, calming down the word slowing down the bed, it happens naturally. By the way, if you didn't have another breathing habit, it would happen naturally. Like, I'm gonna go go back to the shallow reading habit I had, like, for example, when doing sports, the respiratory flexes, kick in, because the body releases too much lactic acid, you start reading deeper. Imagine someone like me, who lost her capability of reading deeper, I was feeling very uncomfortable when I was doing sports, because I my body, reflexes wouldn't be able to kick in, and I would have too much acidity in my body. And I was kind of like feeling I would faint was, you know, a little bit of physical activity, when the opposite is true for people who are overweight, because they can't shallow down the graph, they lost their capability, they can shallow down the breath, slow down the breath, they can't go into a relaxation, you know, yeah, they can just relax themselves. And, and that's why, like practicing breath, work, practicing calming breaths, like there is a whole section on calming breaths and breath hub. That's why practicing those breathing techniques, which will slow down your breath, calm down it and lead you into not breathing in the diaphragm, but in the chest will eventually help you fall asleep. But if you keep on like you did during the day, if you keep on breathing too much to the diaphragm, because just breathe, it's like, just stop. For everyone who's listening, put your hands in the diaphragm and take deep 10 breaths in the diaphragm. Or just feel that energy. Right now just feel how it pumps up your energy life diaphragmatic breathing or breathing pumps off your end pump up your energy, if you need endurance, if you need energy, that's great during the day, if you're getting ready for combat for a combat or a run for whatever. But if you're if you want to fall down, if you want to fall asleep. And if you are still breathing in the diaphragm and you're over breathing, you won't be able to relax. Sometimes you can't relax with this breath man. Made you know, you can do this whenever and it's hard, it's very hard that's gonna happen in the first session. Because breathing habits are learned. And they are learned physiologically it's not going to happen by just one session. That's why we built breath out, you know, you need a tool to practice breath work every day, five to 10 minutes. And then you practice it then on the other day, and then in on the 10th day or the 15th day or maybe in a month, you will be able to relax your breathing and you will be able to fall asleep very easily at night.

Laura Konst: 18:31

Yeah, it really I don't know how many sessions are on that like over 1000 10,000? And who on the breath hub? Who are the teachers? Can everybody sign up as a teacher? Or do they need to be qualified?

Unknown: 18:52

Yeah. So first of all, in brandhub, we have a content team of ourselves. So we produce content ourselves, we have a professional team of psychologists, psychiatrists, reading scientists, and behavioral scientists, because I think it's very important to not think I know even certain that it's very important to first analyze people's breathing habits. So it's like when we were creating the web platform, because we know the importance of analyzing people's breathing habits, because each one of us are breathing different. So if I can't analyze your reading and lead you into a customized journey, I won't be able to get the best results. Of course, you can go ahead and just search the categories and find some relaxing, you know, techniques and practice those and get some results. But if you want to get the best results, if you want to change your reading habits, I have a better healthy breathing habits. We need to analyze the reading. So we created a unique algorithm based on Behavioral Sciences, which can't be replicated by the way it's just unique because it's with 2022 years of research, they're done with a lot of research, we ask you some basic simple questions. And with the answers you give to those questions, we know exactly how you're breathing physiologically. So we gather all that information. For example, you, we ask you a simple question like, do you ever experience dizziness during the day, if you say yes, you probably have an overheating habit, and you're probably using the diaphragm too much. Because when you use the diaphragm too much, and when you have an overwhelming habit, you go into hypercapnia. And that causes dizziness. That's a scientific fact. So it's like with the behaviors, we know which symptoms or which symptoms you experience, while by looking at the symptoms, you experience, we know your behavior, breathing behaviors. And with that analysis, we create a customized journey to lead you into healthy breathing habits might be a 30 day might be a six day journey, you know, and at the end of the journey, you take the test again, see how your reading habit changed, and then go another, another customized journey, and then you start changing your breath day after day. And that's very much needed. And that's what other breathwork apps don't have, that's our unique value to people. And that's why we get the best solutions. It's like our users, if they use it, like daily, five minutes, 10 minutes a day, if they keep on using it daily, and if they keep on using it, you know, with their customized, you know, program program, they get amazing results, like we've been, you know, hearing from people, you know, they were able to able to some people heal migraine headaches, they were able to heal attention deficit problems, you know, ease neck pain, shoulder pain, body pain, because that's also caused by breathing wrong. And many more problems like sleeping problems. anxiety, panic attack. And that's brilliant. It's like, without being able to heal or ease all of these symptoms by just analyzing your breathing and, you know, then going on breathing journeys, just Yeah, brilliant. Why not do it?

Laura Konst: 22:19

Exactly, yes, on the better, but you make the content, we make the contents.

Unknown: 22:25

And we accept there are some teachers in our team, we accept the teachers with, with who are certified from the main breathwork schools, and who are part of GPPA, which is global breathwork. Alliance, or who are part of our breathing school. So we are very sensitive on that. And because I've been in the industry for a long time, I already know some teachers like we choose the most experienced ones.

Laura Konst: 22:56

Yeah, yeah. Which I think is great. Because then you know, I assume if everybody can sign up and someone fancies to have their own channel, I'm just referring to like YouTube, for example, it could cause damage as well, if if if the teacher doesn't do it properly. So I think it's very, it's amazing that you have that controlling factor, that you only have certified people, which, yeah, and then with the algorithm as well. And yeah, it's fantastic. I think it's very clever. It's a very clever app.

Unknown: 23:28

Yeah, I mean, our mission is being the definitive breathwork brand, but we don't want to be we will eventually, and we are growing our team and all that the teachers team as well. But we don't want to be a marketplace like you took where everybody qualified, or unqualified qualified to teach. We want to be the breathwork platform people can trust. Yeah, you know, with the expertise with the science behind it, with scientists behind it. You know, with people who know, because I've been in industry, like I said, over 20 years, we have some teachers who have been in the industry for 40 years, 45 years. We're kind of like, we know what we're doing. Yes. And we have breathing scientists, in psychiatrist in behavioral scientists. And it's, I think, very important for me, it's like, having a group of people who dedicated themselves to breathwork, who were able to work with creators like me, I have worked with 10s of 1000s of people, finished my retreats workshops, and I certified over 2000 best workers over the years globally. And there are teachers as if not more, you know, as experienced as me who create this content or bring that information with their expertise, but also with their experience. I think the experience is very much important because the experience with breathwork so we experienced you have in two years, three years. is a whole different experience after 15 years, yeah, 20 years, it's I've my approach to breathwork. When you start, you're kind of like, you use one technique or a few techniques. And you're like, Wow, this feels great. And then you start promoting those techniques. And the only thing you do is you tell people, this is the best, this is the best. This is the best breathing technique. This is the best breathing school. But you don't realize that it's only best for your reading habits for people like you. You know, like the breathing techniques I used 20 years ago, I don't even use them right now. Because I grew older, and I use different techniques, because my body, my life needs different stuff right now, like I don't have the shallow reading anymore. If I still use the technique I used 20 years ago, it will lead me to an overweight and so it's kind of like in every stage of life. And for every individual, what they need is different. Yeah. And in the beginning, because one method or a few methods, you got the most benefit of you know, because they were the best for you, you start promoting that, and I see it. In many teachers like the young generation, like, you know, they don't see that one technique will eventually lead to a problem. And I think that's my message, being someone who have been doing research and work with 10s of 1000s of people who have the experience. If you practice just one breathing, taking every day, if you just do one thing or a few things every day, it will eventually lead to our breathing habits or dysfunctional breathing habit. It's kind of like you decide to do yoga. But you only practice three poses. Yeah, what happens to the rest of the body? Yeah, exactly. Just practice three poses or five, just what's gonna happen with your body to get the benefit, the most benefit, and I still practice yoga, and I love doing yoga with different teachers. With every teacher, I can, like I experienced another part of my body working or stretching, it's very, it's amazing. It's just wow, you know, I haven't worked that muscle for a long time. And that's the same thing with breathing like, three different techniques, every different session is created with that in mind, mind. So every little session is another step different, like different psych if you practice box breathing. The next session, what's going to happen if you practice box breathing with clear breathing, and create breathing alone. And then we combine techniques, we combine contents. So it's kind of like we create the unique breathing experiences like unique yoga classes. Not to stretch the body but to stretch the reading. Yes, because I

Laura Konst: 28:04

must cover this. I love yoga. And when I few years back when I did yoga classes in real life before COVID, my teacher at the end always did the same breathing thing. And that's the one that you close your nose on one side. And I just couldn't do it. Because it just got me into hyper breathing too much. And he said you need to practice and it's better, but it just didn't feel good. So I stopped actually going to those classes. Full stop. Because you didn't need that. Yeah, I didn't need because I'm already over breathing and shallow breathing and what have you not, my breathing is not good. So I definitely need to practice a lot more on that we're using the app. And so but it really put me off. And every time I do just the yoga, when you do yoga and they say breathe in breathe out very slowly. That works for me. But then even on YouTube, some breathing videos, it just doesn't feel right. But now I listen to you. And now I understand why there now you get it. Now I get it

Unknown: 29:10

some breathing techniques. Yeah, it's like for everyone who is listening. Like all breathing techniques are don't work with everyone. It's just simple as that it's like like I said, the breathing techniques that worked for me many years ago because I have this breathing awareness. Huge breathing awareness in my system now and I'm fully aware it's like techniques I did many years ago. It just doesn't work with me right now with my age where I am with my life. I don't need them anymore. I need other techniques like I need more right now in my age. With my whatever it's like I haven't goals I'm already busy. I need more calming, more relaxing tuning and meditative reading sessions. Were in my 20s I needed this Pull on active breathing sessions, which would give me the energy and the, you know, connect me with my mission and live life and all that. Now, my job, I met a very different place in my journey. It's like really different stage in my journey where I'm already connected with myself, already sent it now it's all about just taking time to deepen that connection with just some relaxed, meditative breathing. And that's why my sessions are more meditative, relaxed right now. If I analyze my breathing now, with the, you know, questions in breath hub, graph analysis system, it would probably lead to the same version of sessions. Yeah, yeah, the algorithm would lead because this feels good. This was great. It's like, yeah.

Laura Konst: 30:52

So even even in different times of your own life, you need a different breathing, like you said, do some You're right. I see.

Unknown: 31:00

That's why breath analysis is very important. It's like, I don't think, I don't think I mean, it's like, it's great that there are, you know, a lot of breathwork apps and giving the techniques and this and that. But it's kind of like you go Google, you have a pain in your shoulder. And you Google, you don't go to a psychotherapist, excuse me, a physiotherapist, but you Google, you know, how you can heal your shoulder and you start doing all kinds of practices, which are not good for your shoulder? Yeah, maybe not. I think having that analysis. Assessment is very important. So I think people shouldn't be aware, when practicing breathing techniques, not to go with, you know, COVID guessing, no, but just, you know, finish that analysis, and then start your own journey, because that's gonna give the best results. Yeah,

Laura Konst: 31:56

definitely. That sounds so amazing. So the next thing that I was really intrigued about is how can breathwork help me and my partner or anybody else in that partner? What has that to do with each other?

Unknown: 32:12

It has a lot to do, actually, like I said, like I said, In the beginning, having healthy breathing habits, especially the inhale, but the Excel as well. So I'm gonna talk a little bit about the inhale and exhale and how it affects us. So the inhale actually means our capability of taking life in. So if you're, you're, you have a healthy, good inhale, let me say if you can inhale in a relaxed way and fully by not shallow, not over, you know, because when you over breathe, and over inhale, it's like you're holding on to life too much. And that creates pressure on the other person, it's like, you're just grabbing them inside. No, just taking in life too much. It's kind of like grabbing things in life. And it leads to a lot of addictions as well. So breathing in a relaxed way. And shallow breathing, it's like, you know, you just can't take it in. It's like, being a person who had shallow breathing, who had a shallow breathing habits. Now, when I look back in my life, I see that I wasn't able to receive love the way I did today, because I read not being able to receive breath, equals to not being able to receive life. If I'm not able to receive breath fully, I'm not able to receive life fully. I'm not able to receive love, I'm not able to receive compassion. So I'm like, not able to receive that love. And I feel unloved and undervalued. So, I was literally feeling in my 20s. Even though you know, my friends or you know, in my relationships, my boyfriend, even my husband, like, did really love me. I couldn't feel His love. And that's why that led me into a divorce, for example, it's like I just couldn't feel His love, which was there. Now I see it, because I still feel it like with his respects because we have a daughter together. Although he's my ex, I can still feel his respect and his love, a unique way of loving and respecting even now, but I wasn't able to feel it many years ago. And not being able to feel the others love affection. No compassion for you, is our problem. It's not their problem. And we or like, feeling it too much or trying to grab it is also a problem. So when you're inhaled, is relaxed. It's kind of like you, you fully get it in and it affects it affects your relationship affects the intimacy levels, because if you're closed, if you're not breathing fully in, it's like you can't receive that It's like you have this, this wall around you with people with you know dysfunction breathing habits they have I had many years ago, that wall around me so I know it from my own experience, like it takes your intimacy you can't, because you are not fully connected with yourself, you can't connect with the other as well. It's like your connection with yourself. Yeah, just reflects in the world. And if you can't connect with yourself, you have walls around yourself, you will have intimacy problems. And also with the exhale, it's like not having a relaxed exhale, is all about not being able to let go and relax. And surrender. It's like, whenever we need, we want to as breath workers relax someone, whenever we want to calm them down, or, you know, just relax them. For example, in trauma release sessions, it's used a lot, we ask them to reveal the analytical with a sigh. Like, relaxed exhale is all about surrendering and letting go. And not having a relaxed exhale, which many people have is a breathing habits leads to being too much in control. Okay, and that's not a good thing. You know, when in intimacy, it's like you need that flow, you need that ability to surrender and let go, you know, sexually, emotionally, physically. So yes, and it depends on your Excel. So the more you're able to relax the Excel, The more relaxed you will be around, you know, your relationship around your life will be able to be relaxed, and being relaxed. And you know, in a forceful surrender, when you're together with someone is a beautiful gift. It's a gift you can give to both of both of

Laura Konst: 36:57

the partners. And can we find on the breath hub met meditation or breath work meditations that you can together with your partner that you do with? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, and is it is that connected to Tantra?

Unknown: 37:15

Some sessions with Tantra you can do yourself or with people, because we have some Tantra teachers in our team, who created some sessions specifically working on that, and also creating sessions around there is a course for example, called sacred feminine. And it's, it's all about opening up. It's all about connecting with that sacred feminine energy connecting with that flow. And also there are some tantric, there are some Breathworks sessions that are based on contra orbit that are used in tantra because breathwork techniques are used in tantra practices.

Laura Konst: 37:54

Yes. Yeah. That's sort of the first thing that I think about, if I think about tantra that you do your breathing together, and because it's all about being on the same breath level, right? And that's how you can connect sexually as well. I think everybody will sign up.

Unknown: 38:09

Just imagine one of you. Yeah, just imagine one of you breathing too fast. The other breathing too deep and slow. is like your energies just don't match. Yeah. And what you said is absolutely true. It's like, your energies match on that breathing level. Yeah, like you breathe the same. You first of all, tap into that energetic level with your breathing. And even when you meet someone, like, you know, when he when you meet someone, you sometimes you're, you're like, we connected in the first moment. It's like there was this connection in the first moment. As a breathing expert. What I would say is, you have the same breathing pattern at that moment, you were breathing the same, and you were in the same life, and why'd you why you work vibrating the same way. Yeah. And that's why you connected with your breathing first. And then you tap into different layers. And we have different layers in our breathing habits. So it's like, even though on the outside, you vibrate the same with someone, then on the inside, if you have other breathing patterns, and they have like, some people have unbalanced breathing patterns. If you have that, and he doesn't have that. You will feel disconnected. He will feel disconnected. She will feel disconnected. You know, your boss will be disconnected.

Laura Konst: 39:30

Yes. Yeah. Well, it's quite funny because he he tells me that I'm often breathing wrong. He's very stable person in all ways. And I'm a bit up and down and left and right. And I'm like a bounce ball all over the planet and the universe. And he keeps telling me you should work on your breathing because you I breathe differently every day for some reason. It's like a fingerprint is never designed. And but yeah, he keeps telling me that so I probably With this big hint I should really work with, you can probably tell that my breathing is not right. I'm actually started apparently, I was told by few people. So singing classes, which I'm not going to start not to be Beyonce, but for my breathing, I need the extra, as well as the daily practice, I need the extra person to help me out with that as well. But yeah, my breathing is all over the place. And so I'm really curious on more than more practice upcoming few months, because it will take me awhile to see how my life is, will be better. I'm quite sure it will be.

Unknown: 40:35

Yeah, and especially if you have a fear, and he's a very stable individual, his breathing habit is probably stable. And that's why he is noticing that there isn't something stable, but something changing and moving in your breathing habits. Yes. He was aware because not many people can be aware of that. But that's the reason why he's away because he has that stability. Yes. And he feels that movement or that change or whatever. He's getting triggered.

Laura Konst: 41:01

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, suddenly, especially if I go to example, like yesterday, I had a big assignment all of a sudden coming up. And I was actually planning on not working for ones, which is very rare. And then it comes in, then he says, how just calm down, breathe normally. And he can tell like you start to go all over. Okay, another head, I should definitely do this more often. Yes. One of my other questions. You mentioned already a few times that it is connected to mental health as well. Because you're when you say when you mentioned that when your breathing is going too fast or too shallow it can, it could trigger anxiety attacks or panic attacks, which are extremely familiar with. But do you believe then when we know, we as myself and people that are like me, are more stable in their breathing, that could really help calming down or even preventing those texts as well? Is that scientifically proven?

Unknown: 42:11

Definitely. Yeah, definitely. So first of all, there are more than 200 well known symptoms of hypercapnia, which is lowering a low carbon dioxide levels. And that's in medical that's taught in medical school so that that doesn't even need to be scientifically proven because it's already in respiratory science books, and it's been taught in schools for many years. And that's what doctors check in the emergency if you're you have a low carbon dioxide levels, if you're for example, fainting, if you have anxiety, or if you're experiencing a panic attack, the first thing they do is they put you in a capnograph and just check if your carbon dioxide levels are too low. So what happens when you're overbreeding or when you have a dysfunctional breathing, you either go into that symptom hypercapnia. So your carbon dioxide levels go low, or hypercapnia, which is high carbon dioxide levels. And it's the same with breathing. If you have a wrong dysfunctional breathing habit, which will affect your respiratory chemistry, which will affect your respiratory physiology, you can either have too much carbon dioxide or too low carbon dioxide, which causes two main respiratory symptoms. And the experiences like anxiety, panic, attack, depression, attention deficit problems, these are one of these 200 symptoms. So they're already known. It's like whenever somebody is having, for example, if you go to an emergency and you think you're having a heart attack, because you have anxiety, they check your carbon dioxide levels and they say no, your carbon dioxide level is too low hypercapnia and then they tell you to Breathe calmly, relaxed, the breathing, slow down to reading, whatever. That's all they do, you know. So that's one thing with panic attack anxiety, some symptoms we experienced during the day like stress fight or flight reflex. They are also chemical symptoms due to the respiratory, the change in the respiratory chemical access. So that's that and with daily breathwork and with specially breathing awareness, you can heal or miss them because there is a certain kind of breathing pattern that causes anxiety. If you practice breath, work every day, and become a more breath aware individual. You will notice when your breathing changes and you stop doing that and you'll just end it won't lead you into anxiety, it will just stop before the anxiety happens. So that's one thing the second thing which I've been telling to you know my students and many people when I'm invited to podcast that I because I think even though it's very simple, people don't understand that if you have a dysfunctional breathing habits, low wearing carbon dioxide levels to high carbon dioxide levels to high oxygen to low oxygen, whatever it's like, if you if your breathing habit unbalances, the respiratory physiology, if it causes a problem in the respiration, that leads to you not having enough oxygen in your cells. And that also leads to not having enough oxygen in your brain. That's why when people go hypercapnic, they think, because they don't have enough oxygen in the brain. So imagine you have a breathing habit, and you don't have enough oxygen in your cells. It's not fatal, like you don't things, you're not reading that bad. But you know, you have some breathing problems, and you don't have enough oxygen in the brain. What's going to happen, your brain won't function properly. And now, with a dysfunction, reading habits, your brain not getting the oxygen needs to operate and function properly. You know, your brain isn't functioning properly. How can we even speak of mental health? Right? Like, let's not even talk about mental health, let's not even do practice any mental health stuff, before we practice breath work. Because if you don't have a healthy brain, how in the world are you going to be mentally healthy, and that's the core physiological problem behind mental health, if we can solve that problem, if we can lead people into practicing breathwork, healing their breathing habits so that they have enough oxygen in the brain so that their brain functions? Well, we wouldn't have all these, you know, if we could solve that we wouldn't have all these mental health problems. I'm just starting on it. Like I haven't seen anyone who practices daily breath work, who went on a customized journey have a healthy breathing habits have a healthy brain with the oxygen levels the brain needs because the brain needs oxygen, it is its main food. Whenever it doesn't have the oxygen doesn't function properly. And I haven't seen who have a healthy breathing habits who might lead to you know, having healthy breathing habits and who kept on having mental health problems. I haven't seen anyone yet. who solved their problems, breathing problems and still had mental health problems. It's just mental health starts with brain health. And it's so simple. But people don't look there. It's just insane. Everyone doing all these practices without even checking? Okay, I have mental health problems. But is my brain functioning? Well, first of all, does it have the energy needs to function? Well?

Laura Konst: 47:44

Yeah. Right. That makes total sense. I should, because if you even if you was like this big pin that dropped into my brains, if you think back when people say like, Oh, back in the, whatever, 60 7080 years ago, they said there was not many people, or depression is getting more and more normal and mental health. And because we live in a more chaste life, we have to be quick in responding, we have to do this, we have to do that. Then maybe naturally, your body goes into fight and flight, therefore also your breathing is off. And it's like this vicious circle. And then the mental. Yeah. And

Unknown: 48:23

also the chemistry also. I mean, what people don't, don't notice. Because, you know, somebody has to say that it's like our biology is or chemistry is such a so vast, it's like, what are we going to talk about, it's like too much information over there. But the thing is, body fluids chemistry is very important on how we feel. And if our body fluids chemistry is too alkaline, or too acidic, that affects our mental health and how we feel because our brain fluid chemistry when our brain, by default chemistry, also brain food chemistry, if it gets too much alkaline or too much acidic, it starts working differently. It's like, that's the reason why some people's brains mind which is connected to a kind of brain produces more negativity than another brain. It's like a healthy brain is an objective leads to an Objective Mind and it doesn't produce negative thoughts. It's a visionary, but an unhealthy brain, which doesn't have the energy or which doesn't have the 7.4 ph If the pH levels change, and this is this is like, I mean, this is already science. It's like it's already known, but nobody talks about it. That's the problem. I mean, you know, nobody talks about what nobody talks about the effects of our breathing on the respiratory chemistry and the body fluid chemistry, because our respiration is the one thing the one and most important thing that's regulated by the fluid chemistry. Yeah. And the moment our breathing changes from moment to moment effect, it affects our respiratory chemistry, which affects our body fluids chemistry, so we stay too alkaline or too acidic due to our breathing pattern. So we stay in a chemical problematic way due to our breathing problem. And then we ask ourselves, why are we anxious? Because your chemistry is too alkaline, you cannot not be anxious, you have a physiological chemical problem. Or then then we say, Why am I thinking negative and try to change those negative thought or thoughts that are filled with fear? Anxiety? You know? We're trying to change that. But we're not looking at the root of the problem. We are not really looking at what what causes this physiological. What's the physiological cause? What's the chemical cause, but it's and it's already in the books. It's like, whenever you are too much alkaline. You start, your brain starts producing thoughts like,

Laura Konst: 51:09

ah, yeah, because it's Dyess. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Wow, that is so cool. I think I just thought of something I should actually put myself to challenge because of with the app, because I'm currently starting to come down, or we're actually completely off serotonin, which is an anti anxiety medication. So I'm almost there. Now take tiny, tiny bit every other day. And in, like, a week or two weeks, I'm completely finished. Well, I should be doing and I should record, start with the breath hub app. Do the analyzation. What's changing? And then as he was changing when I come off, do I feel better? When I was on it? Or do I feel better after 30 days of breath work? I think that's an amazing challenge. I should be doing I love it. I'm gonna do it.

Unknown: 52:00

Me. No, no, let

Laura Konst: 52:01

me miles. Where were you at three years?

Unknown: 52:06

No, I would love to know. That'd be

Laura Konst: 52:09

great. Like, study. Like a study guinea pig. Yeah. I think it's a good time for me now, because I am feeling a little bit like woowoo the last since I come down on it, but they did say you can feel a bit well, I'm always a bit woowoo. But now it's been worse. But probably like with the breathing and the the singing classes to help me breathing better and the breath up up every day. For 30 days. What does what will it do? To me and my mental health and my everything else in life? So I think that's, that's a great challenge. You're about it's yeah, we're gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. Now. I said it on the podcast. And now I know, way back. Let's do it. Great. Wow, that's amazing. I love it. Well, thank you so much. I think we've covered really well, we I've learned a lot, actually in the last What is it hour or so? And I think it's I think it's amazing what you do with all the scientific background in it. I mean, I am a Sagittarius. I do love science, but also the spirituality and working with your, with your partner on breathing as well. So it's a huge app that can provide great stuff for everybody. Yeah, basically, then, yeah.

Unknown: 53:34

I think it's fulfilling our mission. Yes. I think it's fulfilling our mission to help humans stay healthy and well by by just using a natural tool like breathwork. Yes. It's great that yeah, it's great to see that it's fulfilling my mission or my team's mission. We're getting results. Yeah, it's great.

Laura Konst: 53:52

That's amazing. Yeah. Thank you so much for everything for your time as well, because you probably have a very busy schedule. And well, thank you for doing this for us, as well, I think. Yeah, thank you so much. And I wish you a beautiful day. It's very warm everywhere on the planet. And then yeah, it's been an amazing first episode of our third season. I will put the link to the breath help app in the description. So click that download it, you can trial it even you don't have to straightaway go to pain. Have a trial, see how it works for you, which I will do as well and will keep everybody up to date how it is going. Thank you so much. And subscribe.