EP 11. Dragon Energy

I am talking to Intuitive Listener Victoria Jane. Victoria is in touch with many realms but in this episode she is explaining what Dragon Energy is, where it comes from, how it works and how it can benefit us.

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Laura Konst: 0:06

Welcome to the Tali and Loz podcast. Today I've got with me Victoria Jain, who is in connection with the dragon energy. And this is so interesting because I didn't even know this would exist. So I'm very, very happy that Victoria is on today. Hi.

Victoria: 0:26

Hi, thank you for so much for having me. I'm really delighted to be here today.

Laura Konst: 0:30

I'm so glad I'm so glad that we connected on Facebook together. It's it's written as we talked before, and there was a whole new world opening for me. And let's just start with what is dragon energy?

Victoria: 0:46

Well, so many people have experienced Reiki energy in the way in the past. Reiki is very onpoint energy people understand that dragon energy was something that came around at the same time as Reiki energy. People spoke about it, it's from the Eastern culture was dragon energy. But dragons, nowaday means something different. When we speak about dragon energy, we're speaking about elemental energy, like air, water, fire, that's really what we're speaking about. And then we have different subgroups of dragons as well. And dragons even have their own Draco magic branch of paganism, Wicca, all that sort of stuff. So there's many different levels to dragons these days. But what I like to do with my people is keep it really simple and make it fit into your everyday life, which, and I do a lot of healing work. And that is, you know,

Laura Konst: 1:39

yes. Yes, yeah, you're in touch with multiple dimensions as well. We're talking about fe the Atlanteans, and dragons. And so for dragons, when you said it, that the energy itself come around to Reiki energy. I did a bit of reading up about it. And you pointed me in the direction of Diana Cooper as well, as she was saying something about 2012 the portals open to dragon energy. Yes, but I couldn't find much more. I didn't read her book or anything. I just looked on her website and some videos. Can you tell us what is with 2012? Because it's always been a mysterious year.

Victoria: 2:18

Yeah. 2012 was meant to be a great spiritual reset. It was meant to be the coming up new Earth utopia. All this stuff that a lot of people, a lot of spiritual people believed at the time, some people said it would also be when the Starseeds came back down and all this. But basically 2012 was meant to be a time that would see on a global scale. A huge Ascension step forward, waking everyone not just a few select few, but everyone up to five, the energy, which we now realize is not really possible. There's some people that are still asleep and are going to stay asleep. And that's not really me being nasty, let's just back off which you can take out via any of these books. And listen to many speakers out there speaking about this at this point in time, when we speak about dragons coming back unicorn energy, Pegasus energy, fi energy, Kitsune energy, all of these idea with we're really speaking about them coming back from those zestril rounds. So when we speak about astral travel, astral projection, meditation, hypnosis, we're all tapping into past life and ancestral realms and astral realms. So when we speak about portals being open, we're speaking about the energy is easier for us at this stage in our development, to connect into dragons had to say bad rep through religion and for many other things that they were seen as evil and they were seen as wicked and you there's something wrong with you, we tapped into dragon energy and this was even in magical spiritual communities. 10 years ago, you wouldn't dare talk about working dragon energy. You just wouldn't, because you would have been branded as a dark witch adopt petitioner and all this. Luckily, dragons are now being realized, for the light beings that they are. They are living the same realm as angels, unicorns, Pegasus, Ascended Masters. They all work and integrate together all the time. And it's amazing to see what they can help people let go off, and you're speaking about deeply rooted traumas, not just around with the husband, about, you know, going, leaving a toxic relationship, leaving a toxic marriage, going for death in the family. These are deep seated things that really affect people to their core. But we're also speaking about childhood abuse or sexual abuse. We're speaking about shedding it not just from this current lifetime, but from our past lifetimes, but that's the theme. So when people work with the dragon, they get woken up to a new level, really get huge leaps forward in massive from true reels to love life you name it. If you're working with your team, but I was speeding, those are driving teams. You will get those results every single

Laura Konst: 5:08

day. So you How did you know you were in touch with a dragon? So how did you find out?

Victoria: 5:15

Well for me, I woke up if you like, with spiritual healing, I had heart healing hands at age seven, I tapped into spirit energy. And it was quite easy for me to discern what was spirit energy and pop was a different sort of energy because it was heavier, it was still nice, still light, but had a heavier vibration to it. And it was really strong to me. And I was like, Okay, this is different. I know what this is. This is like tapping into past relatives that have passed over. And not knowing them, not actually physically knowing them in this lifetime seeing photos of them like six years later in photobooks, a family they never seen before. So that energy was base. easy for me to identify. But when I tapped into dragon energy, the first time I was like, this is really new. But it felt it was happening when I was like to nature. I mean, you gotta remember the stage I'm also still in my school years so still on the playground at lunchtime and things like that, and feeling it but I was very outdoors feeling it when I was connected into animal work. And I still had this first and it was a thirst for learning about alternative ways alternative healing was so it was aroma therapy it was Chinese medicine it was all these holistic treatments and Reiki of course as well. Yes, so so many different avenues. But for me to differentiate the two it really it all fell into place if you like about 2014 2015 for me was that this was now dragon energy I had been tapping into all the ships and funnily enough that was the time I was pregnant with my daughter and just had her and just officially become a single mom everything just fell into place and all the blinkers like he said, say like the rose colored glasses just fell fell off and you got to see it completely real was like a whole new world opening up for me.

Laura Konst: 7:17

But do you see them as as like a projection screen

Victoria: 7:21

if I'm working in a one to one session with someone. My first abilities I can always hear it clear and clear audience can hear it clearly each and every time I tap into the dragons. I always say my clairvoyance is there but it's more like on the flip side of the fence. I get something I know that's super important. I have to pass it on the way I see it. But for me when I'm tapping into people's dragon divine patterns, I can see shapes images, I can see this dragon coming forward thing I need to work with them especially if I'm doing Dragon firebreath healing session. The fun thing for me with that is people begin usually about three days before I'm due to have that appointment then I know the regulars I want to pull in I have my regular healing dragons which is like blue dragon from the Pleiades. We have Mr. Green Dragon and a few others major hard hitting healers so I want them in every healing session. I do okay um but then I have other ones that will come in that are just signatures for that person's needs right now. And I won't get to know that person's needs until I start talking to them about the first five minutes into the appointment and then at that stage by that stage I usually have a list of six or seven dragons I know what to show up to this person.

Laura Konst: 8:38

Okay, right.

Victoria: 8:40

So you do get the visual but you get the audio and the visual constantly

Laura Konst: 8:44

all together and do you how do you know like what kind of director they have different colors or do they have different names? Do they look differently? Like how do I how can I visualize for myself

Victoria: 8:55

all have different colors a lot of people go instantly into Okay, this is green dragon it looks a green color to me. This is an orange dragon so therefore it's associated with spire I always teach my students like to feel into the actual energy of the dragon that you're working with don't get fixated in the color because I think that's something with a lot of different modalities and a lot of different entities. If you get fixated on the color, you can automatically pick it up as being the wrong thing. So like when you think of this one as drag, Okay, first dragon is a dark brown dragon looks like that. But you will also see thin blue threads running across its wings, legs, things like this. Because the earth can't survive without water. So the water is constantly flowing through Earth dragon

Unknown: 9:48

to make it look and move about.

Laura Konst: 9:52

Oh right. Okay, so it's not it's not that like one that's not one rule.

Victoria: 9:59

But no There's no one no you can't see this is there's so many different subsets of dragons, so many different branches. Like when you speak about elemental dragons, and that's what people think dragons are an element. So therefore there is only fire here water. No, all of them have their own little hybrid families as well. So we have air and water, we have Earth and air, earth and he is a great dragon. By the way, I love working with f&e Dragon, because this dragon is all about balance. And especially if you're a healer, energy worker, light worker, anyone that does spiritual work. One problem that you hear again and again is I can't stay grounded, I can't stay dialed up affects my energy levels so much that off balance all the time. And Earth and air dragon is a brilliant dragon for these people. Because if you have this dragon in your team, then they will help you to your vibration high. So you can tap in as much as you need to for your clients work for your day to day life, even if we're not enhanced our day to day lives. And we are constantly battling tiredness, poor nutrition and a whole heap of other stuff. But for these guys, they have to stay balanced. And by keeping us balance, we stay in our manifestation powers but easier, because we're keeping our vibration higher. But it's teaching us grounded so we can work through our day to day action steps will work towards this thing, James as well. So it's that wonderful, perfect balance dragon. Anyone that does spiritual,

Laura Konst: 11:34

the way it works is that you connect to the dragons, but you can help people with their own dragon team. Because Yeah, most people Does everyone have multiple dragon.

Victoria: 11:46

Everyone has their own dragon team. But dragon teams, if you're thinking like, I'm sure a lot of people are listening in yourself, we know this is we all have like a spirit guide team. And we're meant to have different people representing different things for us. Dragon teams, a mass of the smallest dragon team I've ever seen is six, the largest dragon team I've ever personally seen is 29. Because some dragons work in the clouds, their working bodies are four or five. But other dragons prefer to work solo. So the higher up dimensionally they are, the more likely it is you're only going to be seeing two dragons, one dragon for certain ones. So dragons, you will often see solo, your deep galactic Blue Dragon or mega dragon, alpha dragon so striking. They don't need to work with anyone else. They're so powerful, they're so big. But here's the thing, you don't want either of these, any of those four solo in your team belong because as soon as they come into your team, you will have rapid change in your life. Anything that is no longer in alignment is no longer fitting with you, these guys come in, they're going to push it all the way and bring you into a new chapter in your life. And they can be quite firm about this, it happens. It doesn't happen over a staggered period of time, it happens quickly. So when they come into your team, it's great to invite them in on a healing session, or in call what I'm doing, connecting into different messages and things like that coming through for people claiming lots of trauma and lots of trapped emotions and health issues. I have people struggling to find patterns. But you don't want them hanging in there. Great. They'll come in. So when I do a reading for someone, I see these guys coming in or teaching someone how to connect with their own team. I'm like, Guys, oh, this one's come up. Okay, so here's what's happening. You'll be experiencing this, this and this in the next few days. And it's okay, let it ride out, let it run the course, strike a loop and step away and let the rest of your team come back in and shoot things like this. My thing

Laura Konst: 13:57

is, well, I feel like probably one of those in my life the end of 2019 until the end of 2020. Constantly. Yeah. Because Yeah, for me, that was a crazy time and things that you certain things happen so fast, I couldn't keep up.

Victoria: 14:12

And it becomes that knock on effect. And then we keep going in effect, even once they've left us we keep going because we're like, what happened, you just can't comprehend it in that mental level. So then you go a little bit into survival mode, which brings in a whole heap of other problems. And then we have to rebuild trust and then we have to rebuild stability and everything else. So it has that knock on effect if it happens too quickly. And we not really understanding why it's happened in the first place. If we get that understanding, then that has a very calming smooth seas approach to it that just relax and then we can just go Oh, I understand. And things fall into place again,

Laura Konst: 14:54

right? Again, when you do a session with someone and you tap into their dragon team. Can you Communicate with the dragons. Can you For example, say to plan or this particular dragon? Can you come down for this human being? Or does it work that way? Or

Victoria: 15:12

no, you can you can call. If I wouldn't do that so much. If I'm doing a one to one session, I'm telling people, okay, these are the dragons that currently in your team, you can work with this one by setting the intention to dream about them at night, when I'm going to meditation Australians better to interact with you during the daytime, this is better to interact with you at the nighttime, you've got specific issue, let's work on that issue with this dragon. We can break it down in stages, if I'm doing something like I really want to call into a certain dragon to hook into a certain problem, then I'm going to get them into something like I call a dragon laser focus session when I go into the dragon divine pattern. And this is something that a lot of people that have a connection to element tools will have. If you've been fascinated by dragons, or fi or your life, you might have a mix of Dragon empty lineage to you. And anyone that has that can have a dragon dibang pattern. It's very unique to each individual. So I can do that. If you've been on my Instagram page, and I think you have seen a couple of like the drag and drop D videos I've done. But I've done a collective healing by tapping into the collective dragon to find patterns and things. To do that for backache, you know, but if I'm wanting to take a certain dragons come forward to help a certain person with a certain situation, I'm going to infuse that dragons energy into the dragon divine pattern. That's the quickest way for me to help that person. And then I'm going to teach them how they can work with that dragon and develop the relationship with that dragon because it is a relationship you're developing. So you've got to have trust from both sides. But the dragons are very willing to trust us. They're not they scared or fearful of us. Unlike Kitsune certain types fee, they are nervous about us because we've done them a lot of wrongs in the past. But the Chinese are very willing to step forward and work with us and trust us and help elevate us.

Laura Konst: 17:10

Okay, okay.

Unknown: 17:11

Also,

Laura Konst: 17:13

sometimes there's a Is there like a mischievious Dragon that comes in? Or?

Victoria: 17:18

I have never met any? No, no. I guess I misunderstood. I would say that. And this dragons can look quite intimidating to people. But there's never a mysterious dragon. There's never an intention dragon. The only person that can make a dragon male intention is by the person that is connecting into them. So it's like every other bit of software healing, energy work that you do. It's the intentions behind your actions that make something good or bad. The Dragons themselves are completely neutral. And the majority, I've never seen a negative dragon. So the majority of ones I've seen and what are all very positive, and you just want to help elevate people and ascend.

Laura Konst: 18:04

Okay, so it's actually very safe for people to come to you and help them out. They don't have to be scared for them. Basically,

Victoria: 18:11

No, there's nothing to be scared of. It's very much like working with angels. It really is. There is nothing. It's not a scary energy. It's not an energy that you are downgrading yourself. A lot of people when I first started out speaking by dragons, a lot of people said to me, oh, that evil like No, they're not the essence to religion painted them this way to control in a lot of cases it was to control women. It was a lot of people. Not dragons was seen as a way to control women who wanted to step into the independence who wanted to be more free thinking who wanted to own their sexuality and things. So you were seen as a dragon, if you did all these things, you were seen as too bossy, too outspoken, and all this. And then any woman because women are naturally into tuned in to moon cycles, first cycles are these things. And dragons are tuned in to the same energy. So therefore women could do it. It was evil. And connected to this.

Laura Konst: 19:17

Right? Yes, yeah, that makes total sense. And you'd still have people because I've been telling my friends I was going to talk to you. And as for me, it's super interesting, because I'm discovering all kinds of spirituality. And I think it's brilliant that people like you have such a different connection with realms that people like me don't understand and didn't even know about. myself, my friends, they, not all of them are spiritual, especially you who are not spiritual. We're still a bit more than they were skeptical. I What is that? How would I? How can you explain to the people who are still skeptical herder we don't really know what to do with it. What can you say? How can help them face how it can help them

Victoria: 20:04

yeah first of all you've got to be open minded that's the first thing you can't if you're not willing to learn or willing to listen you're never going to take on any new information. So I never take it to heart when people say to me oh I don't believe in that fine you don't it's probably a case of you if you don't feel that stirring something at your heart core then you're probably not a my ideal connection the person I'm doing network with the best so for me personally, I don't take anything to heart with that at all it's just normal life. I mean, I still have family members that if they heard this thing thing What the heck is she doing right? Because they have no clue. Yes, and that's

Laura Konst: 20:48

that's okay. Definitely. It's a ritual isn't it? I think of it and yeah, all of my episodes that is always someone is that I don't understand it.

Victoria: 20:58

Yeah, so I'm okay if people don't understand what I'm about. But when does it always help? Yes, it always helps. If they're open to learning. I'm open to teach him I think the way I always try and break this down initially it's like saying Okay, give me a task in your life right now that you want to work on that is super important to you. And I did a funny video on this many years ago called I have a dragon for that and this is literally what I did is I spoke to everyone on a one to one basis I had a big threat and I grew and I just said okay, name that thing. Okay, this is the dragon you should be one of the dragons that has helped myself so many clients during this pandemic time during this craziness has been Black Dragon Black Dragon is this huge mass of fantastic comforting energy who helps us shields us from the negative heavy energies of the collective then everyone is going around you fearful allows you to meditate allows you to fake allows you to transform the peace and quiet of his presence and you still get those day to day things this is a dragon that if you've had a major operation in your life or major health issue and you're still recovering what was this driving because he will help you get through those day to day tasks that you really need to get done it because life doesn't stop if you're ill if you're recovering life still goes on and you still need to push yourself at different stages and then you need to back off So is that a to and fro so this dragon is perfect for people that are recovering from operations and is trying to get that balance back into their life as the heal and regenerate So that's just one example if I've got someone is suffering and they know they're got like I keep going back to the bad ex boyfriend Chelsea the one that's got all the toxic behaviors really like him but we really know it's not good for us he's not the ideal individual then okay let's work with Fire Dragon was burned up was caused let's remove the soul obstacles that are in the way let's propel you forward in Find your passion not just the passions of the person that Find your passion within yourself and then that he attracts the person that was really meant for you because they see you later

Laura Konst: 23:17

right yeah so it's always people can always try they can always come to you check out your your website which will which I will put in descriptions as well and then be open about it I think it's a wonderful wonderful thing. Now there are so

Victoria: 23:32

I always have my Let's talk for people to just come forward and talk to me ask me a few questions. I always say to people as well because a lot of the work I do is really deep. I'm always like for goodness sake if you have something that comes up you've had strange dreams you've had a panic attack you've had something please reach out to me because I'm not one of these people that abundance people after a session it's like okay, if you get to me and I've just done a session which you'd like to see in the last 14 hours that's my my connection to your team still jumping up it's not going to be hard work for me to tap back in and see what's going on. But I want you know after that it gets a little bit more hard for me to jump right back into the middle of a session that was done say a week ago or something like that right? So it becomes a bit of a I will help I'm always there and it's something I teach my students they know they can reach me on messenger they know they can reach me in different ways. But if they're having an individual problem and they might not see something that jumps out of them as obvious of yes that's my solution that's why I need to book that's what I need to go do. They've always got the option of just hitting just talk button on my profile and I'm just teasing because I want people to get the right fit or something that works for them. I don't want to sell one particular item I want them to just get the best experience that fits that needed faster.

Laura Konst: 24:57

Yeah, yeah cuz I could see all on your website. Whichever put the description the intuitive listener you have about 1000 things that you do. So many things, like I said before, and we're like you said, you, you you've, you can tap into so many different realms. Yes. And when a client comes to you for the first time, and so I want to have my dragon energy, but you would feel maybe the fee are better. Would you tell them? Yes. So literally, I can feel that. You know, I know you're interested in this, but I think this is better for you. Yeah.

Victoria: 25:34

Yes, I would absolutely do that for someone. Because especially if they're like, oh, I've heard you do dragon. Like, that's great. I'm really not sure if it's happening to my team, but I've always had a passion for dragons. My next follow up question to that is, well, have you always just felt passion for dragons only? Or have you felt a passion for dragons? Dragon? Hey, he grew up. Did the two of you interest you as a child? Did you have a more of a deeper connection in childhood to unicon energy? And a lot of people that have done inner child work or say, Oh, yes, I completely heart. I've fallen back in love with fi in recent years and things of that. I say, Okay, well, let's look here some fee packages. Is our history because I work on, this is what I do. Because some of the things I do if you see something like, say BLESSINGS TO BE Anchoring on my site, then that is like a shamanic journey that I take the ball and work on a certain topic, if you like, that's going to help them across many. Yes. So I play around with different things all the time. But the purpose is to always evolve and heal and transform.

Laura Konst: 26:45

Yes, yeah, it's a lot a lot of and do you? Do you get overwhelmed by all the realms that you've tapped into sometimes do you feel like,

Victoria: 26:54

if I'm not that good. If I'm not a good girl, and I don't do my morning routine, or D gunky my energy field, protecting my energy, drinking enough water during the sessions that I run, and after the sessions, and if I don't rest enough, then yes, I can get overwhelmed. Yes, I can get tired, it's can be hard to push myself up and dial in my energy back down. But that comes from a lot of spiritual awareness. And knowing my levels, like, I love running laser focus sessions, I see the biggest results with them. But trying to do free back to back in one night, that's going to knock me down for a few days. It's possible, do I want to do it? Not. So it's knowing how to space my appointments out? It's knowing what my limit is? Truly, there's not going to knock me off for all my other clients as well. Yes,

Laura Konst: 27:53

yeah, exactly. Yeah, because it takes a lot of energy to be in connection.

Victoria: 27:57

I mean, a lot of it falls down to self awareness, self discipline, and self care. That's what it really all boils back down to. So always focus on my self care and focus on my energy field. So it's not just important for me to ground it, then I've got to focus on clearing it and clearing any damage to my energy field that I've sustained during a session or blowback of a person's trauma or echo something I've got to make sure I don't take that on.

Laura Konst: 28:25

Yes, exactly. And another thing that really caught my attention is the realm of Lemurian. Yes, I have some Lemurian crystals. And they're so powerful. Like once the first time I received them, I could not even touch them. Because they're very powerful. So I let them be for a good two, three weeks before I started to work with them. And then also I saw something about lemare and dragons. Yes, something's inside of me spire like, hey, hang on a minute, what is this going on? So what is the difference between Lemurian dragons and other dragons?

Victoria: 29:06

Well, what you notice first things is Atlantis. All these places like Atlantis, Lemuria, Avalon, all have moved into astral realm places. places that we work with elementals were very well expected. But each one had its own set of dragons. And each one often had its own set of dragons as well, which was something that wasn't even spoken about. Until Oh, mid 2000. By Lucy Cavendish, no one had heard about dragonfly up until that point. Both of them have different subcultures. For me, I have a fantastic mentor, Dora Jesus, she's wonderful. She's the queen of Lemuria. Right? Well, some would call me the queen of the dragons. She's very much the queen of Lemuria. So she works with this type playful Lemuria Dragons. Well my dragons the elemental dragons, Atlantean dragons evelo dragons I work with and the dragon then much more serious when I work with them, they have a more serious approach and then like okay, for I tap into them and dragon energy it's playful it's it's very energetic, but it moves super fast. It's like watching dragons or racing around a racetrack basically, Formula One speed dragons if you like. So when they're quizzing about my living room, I'm like, Okay, guys time then what do you want? What do you need? Can we have a conversation kind of thing? Oh, my guys struggling. I can usually tell when they're excited about something because they're like, literally can't they're like that restless child syndrome. They can't stay physically still. I was like, Okay, why don't you go tell me and it was big. So share what's coming up for this person or even for myself. I was like, okay, but why are you holding back up? But let me dragons move. They move super, super fast. I mean, I'm probably not the best one to talk about them. And honestly, I would recommend you to speak to Dora gigas, because she is amazing.

Laura Konst: 31:11

I want to know more about this. Because it's a very, it's been a very powerful. We call it a myth, Atlantis, or do we call it?

Unknown: 31:21

I think it's called nice. It's like a legend, a legend. It is a legend. And it is something that a lot of people and I have to include myself because I have had since working with my dragon team, I've had a atlantis and Lemurian. And so memories, come back to life and seeing different points. And even when I was running lantian reading with someone not so long ago, she was into the chamber, and one of these healing chambers. And I was like, Yeah, but you're not a healer, and I could see her walking around this chamber. And I learned a whole series of stuff about how this chamber would have worked, but I didn't know before. Like how there was someone that came and cleaned it in between each session. There was like literally, this lady was like a feng shui master positioning everything to the right note to make sure everything was in the right position to enhance the energy of that room. And there'll be another two people that came into the room after that before the healer and the client of priestess and the client personally we're working on walked into the room finally the final two people.

Laura Konst: 32:33

Wow. Yes, it's it's different in all different levels as well, or different vibrational legends. What that that's incredible to me. I love that. So lets go back to the dragons actually. Can Yeah, everyone who opens up their mind be in touch with their own dragon team. Yeah, can they?

Victoria: 32:57

Yes, they can. Like, if you're in contact, some people need help. That's just some people can do it, literally by buying an Oracle card. And for me, I am connecting to dragon energy or energy I'm working with via my Oracle cards. But that's very unique for me because I can touch the card and it becomes a portal. And I can literally pull that dragon forward and really speak to them. I don't need to memorize the card, I don't need to memorize it, I don't need to look at the pictures, I just need to touch it. And it becomes a portal, that gateway energy for me to work with. But other people might find a meditation guide the journey meditation and those things I do as well people I do that privately and just general ones as well. That can help anyone. Some people find that is the first contact. That is the first point it makes it easier for them to tap into. This is how dragon feels and then they can take it to the next level of Okay, I'm ready to meet my team. And they'll sit down and meditate. And they'll see maybe two or three dragons come forward them but they might not understand what the same they might not understand fully put this dragons wants to work with someone because they haven't got that nurture nurture connection built yet. So that's when some tiny someone like me comes in or they go off and read books like on their Cooper, and many more or they go to some of these fantastic Dragon sramana artists out there. Go to someone that does dragon making. There's lots of different ways they can pull in and connect if they have the willingness to learn and the open heart and an open mind. Because if you're close minded, you're not never going to see beyond what's in front of your face.

Laura Konst: 34:45

No, that's 100% Yeah, that's with everything is that even with the spirit realm with the Akashic records with evolutionary astrology, all of it, Reiki all of it, all of it. If you state what we call as in the spiritual what we call it, stay asleep when like yes or You mentioned it earlier, when people stay asleep, that's all. Yeah. And how do people connect with you on those groups,

Victoria: 35:06

if anyone wants to reach out to me or connect with me in any way, then my business is called intuitive listening. Because obviously, my main thing I do, as I said, my audience is my superpower to you like, that's my main thing. So I'll say I connect far better into Elementary. So the intuitive listener was born. So I could tap into people's understand what people weren't really seeing and, and tap into their teams to help them find that common ground and that communication between each other. So if you take Finland shooter, I will put

Laura Konst: 35:40

all of Victoria's details in the description as well, the intuitive listener, where you can find all her abilities that you can do all the channels that she can tap into, which is often Well, thank you so much for your time, Victoria. And I have to speak soon, because I think there's a lot more to talk about one of the things that you can do. Oh, yes,

Victoria: 36:00

there's so many different rounds. I mean, this was just very much just one diving in a little bit.

Laura Konst: 36:05

Exactly. Exactly. Thank you so much, and have a wonderful weekend.

Unknown: 36:11

Thank you so much. And thank you for having me, and it's been great

Laura Konst: 36:23

Carrie Palmer, about following guidance. See you then.